INSPIRED BY THE SHADY DELL, YORK, PA, AND DEDICATED TO ITS OWNERS JOHN & HELEN ETTLINE
AND TO MARGARET ELIZABETH BROWN SCHNEIDER, NICKNAMED "THE OLDEST LIVING DELL RAT"


Wednesday, June 2, 2021

Who Says You Can Never Go Home Again?


The question above 
references a familiar old saying
 traced back to author Thomas Wolfe who draws
that conclusion in You Can't Go Home Again,
a novel published posthumously in 1940. 


Toni Deroche begs to differ.
Our old friend, blog reporter,
photojournalist and former
owner of the Shady Dell,
did go home again, to
meet the nice folks
who live at the Dell
now. They welcomed
Toni into the house,
showed her around
and invited her
to take pictures.
She did!



After touring the house and property, Toni raced back
to Shady's Place headquarters with the first new pictures
of the Dell interior since the house was renovated by the
Deroche family and sold in 2012. I am proud to have
Toni back as my guest to file this special report. 


Shady, I'm excited to show you
these brand new pictures of the
Dell. Recently I drove by and
and saw the family that lives
there out in the side yard.
I figured this is finally my
opportunity to stop by, so I
pulled down the driveway
and they recognized me!
Such a sweet young couple
and so happy to show me
around... inside and out!


So now I’ll give you a little tour. I wish I would have
taken more pictures but I didn’t want to impose.
Below is a shot of the family room
with a view of the kitchen. 


 SHADY DEL KNIGHT: Pardon me for interrupting, Toni, but I can't
contain my excitement. Hey, all you original Dell rats, can you believe
you are looking at the same space where, in the 1950s, 60s and 70s,
the Dell restaurant was located... where thousands of teenagers
gathered to shoot the bull as Helen Ettline stood behind her
 snack bar making burgers, fries, subs, shakes, sundaes
and my personal favorite, cherry cokes? Can you see
yourself in that room playing the pinball machine
while Helen's jukebox played doo-wop oldies? 


Above is a picture of their dining room.

SHADY DEL KNIGHT: I wanna remind you rats that this room
was once the main seating area of the Dell restaurant. As you
recall, there was a row of diner style booths on each side
with an aisle running down the middle. 


The husband made that huge dining room table!

At the top of Shady's post, you saw a magical photo
that actually looks more like an oil painting. It shows
Margaret Schneider's great grandchildren gazing
through the windows of the Dell's third floor
attic prior to the sale in 2012. The picture
below shows you what the attic
looks like today.


SHADY DEL KNIGHT: Toni, this might be a good time for me
to remind older followers and inform newer ones that for years
the Dell's attic held a secret, a story I first reported in 2008 on
 my old blog. Dell rats of the 50s and 60s remember that John
 Ettline routinely carried a nightstick as he made his rounds
of the Dell. The logical explanation would be that John
armed himself with a club in case a scuffle broke out
in the dance hall or parking lot and he needed to
subdue unruly guests. A spokesperson for the
Ettline family told me there was a another reason.

2011 image

According to the spokesperson, John armed himself with a billy club
because he and Helen were secretly operating a safe house, a shelter
for battered and abused women in the attic of their Shady Dell! 

2012 image

Helen herself was a fugitive from an abusive marriage when she
married John. The Ettlines allowed battered women to stay up
there in the attic until they could find permanent shelter elsewhere. 

2012 image

Imagine, Dell rats, while the rest of us partied two floors below,
women in crisis were hunkered down in the attic, trying to stay
out of harm's way. It's mind-boggling! If you think about it, the
Ettlines provided the same services to female abuse victims that
 Access-York and other women’s help organizations offer today. 

2012 image

Only a few members of the Ettline clan knew that the Dell doubled
as a secret shelter for women. It was feared that if too many people
knew about it, word would inevitably leak out and abusive males
would show up at the Dell, confront John and try to drag
their women home. To prepare for a worst case
scenario, John kept his trusty baton handy.
Toni, back to you. 


See how beautiful the Dell exterior looks today
with foundation beds, plants and flowers?

SHADY DEL KNIGHT: I swear, Toni, this is uncanny. it looks
as if a flying saucer beamed up the Dell, gave it a makeover
and set it back down on a completely different property!


The family replaced the old columns.


No more chipped paint!

The next three pictures are views of the side yard,
the area that was once the Dell's parking lot. 

 

Many trees were cut down to create that long
flat area. As you can see, it's as big as a
football field- beautiful! 

SHADY DEL KNIGHT: Good heavens, Toni, it looks like the lawn
at Downton Abbey!  Anyone for polo or croquet?  These pictures are
incredible!  I can hardly believe I am looking at the same section of
the property that used to be a rough, dirt, gravel and loose stone
parking lot with bumps and ruts that murdered a Dell rat's car. 


SHADY DEL KNIGHT:  I'm sure every original Dell rat remembers the
area shown above.  You pulled into the Dell's lot from Starcross Road,
drove down past the house there on the right, and parked your car
wherever you could find a space. (On Friday and Saturday nights
you needed a shoehorn.) Many times you had to continue down
to the end of the line (left side of the screen), round the bend
 and head back toward the road as you continued to search
 the jammed lot for a place to leave your heap. 


If you couldn't find a space in the second row, you needed to go out
to the annex parking lot next to a steep cliff and walk a considerable
distance back to the Dell house.  If you still couldn't find a spot,
you wound up in the dreaded No Man's Land, the remote
auxiliary parking lot a quarter mile down the road.
Since there was no shuttle service, you needed
to make the trek back up the road to reach
the entrance to the Magic Kingdom.
Sorry, Toni-- go ahead.



Finally I walked back behind the Dell's garage
which was built by the family that purchased the
estate in 2012. As longtime followers of Shady's
blogs might recall, The Shady Dell dance hall
and the original garage were torn down in
the fall of 2012, and the new garage
was built upon the foundation. 



It amazed me that the original foundation is
still there... and so is the area beneath the original
garage where horse stables were once located. 

SHADY DEL KNIGHT: I owe each and every one of those horses an
apology. It must have been nerve racking for them to have to listen
to 100+ teenagers carrying on in the dance hall 7 nights a week
while they were down below trying to get some sleep.


Even the old horse gates are still there. The Dell's
 horses passed through them on their way to
the corral and hillside grazing land.

Shady, the current owners
of the Dell were so happy
to see me and so gracious
the day I dropped in on
them. They told me about
man wearing a veterans
hat, no doubt a former
Dell rat, who recently
stopped by to see the
Dell. They let him in
and he was amazed
by all the changes.
They told me a lot
of cars drive by the
property very slowly
as Dell rats of old
gaze at the place
that was once their
"home away from
home," the scene
of so many good
times in their youth. 





Thank you very
much, dear friend
and honorary Dell
rat Toni Deroche,
for bringing us this
report and sharing
these great new pics
of our Alma Mater
The Shady Dell! 

33 comments:

  1. WOW! The Dell is such a beautiful house! I absolutely love old homes and I am falling in love with this home.

    It's crazy how time changes so many things, but yet some things still remain. Helen and John were awesome people, through and through. I'm so thankful they were that way. I could see women living in the attic and it looked comfortable.

    It's chilling to realize that even 60-70 years ago, there was nothing for women who were getting out of abusive situations. They relied on the kindness of others and prayed they wouldn't be found.

    Thank you, dear friend and Toni! I loved this walk down memory lane and the photos of the "new" house!

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    1. Hi, Jessica Marie!

      You burst across the finish line to take Early Bird honors this week, dear friend! Thanks a lot for coming by to join Toni Deroche on a tour of the Shady Dell inside and out, the first such opportunity to see what the new Dell looks like since 2012.

      Yessum, it's hard to believe that the Dell house you see in Toni's pictures was being built at the time of the historic sinking of the Titanic. It is a house erected during the early Roaring Twenties of the 20th century, but today looks almost new thanks to years of hard work on the part of The Deroches, the previous owners, who completely renovated the structure's interior and exterior and cleaned up the property prior to selling it.

      Yessum, the Dell attic wasn't The Ritz, but I'm sure the battered women hunkered down in it were grateful to have shelter, a secret hideout where they could feel safe from domestic violence and abuse. It stands to reason that some of those women might have been pregnant or brought small children with them. Yessum, it is remarkable that John and Helen Ettline opened their hearts and their doors and were willing to help those women. Helping others was how The Ettlines rolled. They were good people, yet they and their Shady Dell hangout were looked down upon by many members of the York community.

      Thank you again for taking an interest in the Shady Dell saga and for showing up early and writing an excellent comment. Enjoy the rest of your week, dear friend JM!

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    2. Hi Shady,

      It looks like I caught the worm, then. ;)

      The Dell is beautiful and it gives me some ideas for my future home. Some day...

      Happy Thankful Thursday, dear friend!

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    3. Hi, Jessica Marie!

      Yessum, as Early Bird you get to choose between a worm and a life size cardboard cut-out of Shady Del Knight. :)

      Happy TT to you as well, dear friend JM!

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    4. Hi Shady!

      I'll take the cut out! :D

      Shady, is their public transit in York? I'd like to visit sometime. It looks like a quaint town and since I'm always looking to explore new places...

      Happy Monday!

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    5. Hi, Jessica Marie!

      I haven't lived in York since 1984 and haven't visited since 2002. I'm sure I wouldn't recognize most of the area if I went up there today.

      If you'd like to plan a visit to the White Rose City, I found two sites that might help you. Coming in from your part of the state, you could pick up train service in Berks or Lancaster County and continue west from there to York County.

      TRANSIT AND TRAIN:

      https://pacommuterservices.org/transit-train/

      AREA BUS ROUTES:

      https://www.rabbittransit.org/schedules/york/

      I'm sure you will run a picture post if you do decided to visit York. Thanks for returning to chat and enjoy the rest of your week, dear friend JM!

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  2. Wow, they ran a battered woman's shelter in the attic! They were really great people.
    The place looks so bright now.

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    1. Hi, Alex!

      You're the second place finisher in this week's Race to Shady's Place. Thanks for coming, good buddy!

      Yessir. I gleaned that fascinating information from John Ettline's family way back in 2008 when I was just starting my blogging career. I published the story in one of my posts that year. Knowing that most of my current blog friends never saw the story, I decided to tie it in with Toni's report this week. In 2021, The Dell looks spic and span, and you'd never think it is now nearly 110 years old.

      Thanks again for dropping by, good buddy Alex!

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  3. That was quite a story today. I love to hear about the history of a place and its people. This lovely one made quite a change from restaurant and shelter to family home and has seen a lot of life.

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    1. Hi, Cheryl-Lee!

      Thanks for coming by, dear friend! I'm pleased to have you on hand to view these new pictures taken inside the Shady Dell and around the grounds, and to learn a few tidbits relating to the hangout's long, rich and colorful history. Over the years the home was owned by The Browns who built it in 1912-13 and lived there until the late 1920s, The Spanglers who lived there during the Great Depression, The Ettlines who called it home from the end of WWII to the early 90s, The Deroches - Toni & Tom, and two other families who occupied the grand dwelling in the years since the sale in 2012. I might even have missed an owner or two in that long list.

      Thanks again for your visit and comment, dear friend Cheryl-Lee!

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  4. Those are wonderful pictures. Nice to see the place well-taken care of.

    Pretty amazing that it also served as a battered women's shelter. Such kind people!

    Have a wonderful week!

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    1. Hi, Sherry!

      Thanks for swinging by, dear friend! I'm happy you decided to take the Magical Mystery Tour with my guest blogger, former Shady Dell owner Toni Deroche.

      Yessum, John & Helen Ettline were a mom & pop social services organization. They rolled up their sleeves and never hesitated to help people in need, including troubled teens from broken homes who were among the regulars at their Dell hangout and women fleeing domestic violence and abuse who were offered safe haven in the Dell's third floor attic. The Ettlines also supported local youth groups and sponsored sports teams. It's a shame they and their dance hall developed a bad rep throughout the community.

      Thanks again for dropping by, dear friend Sherry, and enjoy the rest of your week!

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  5. It must feel great, strange, sad but also happy that this place is still there although changed. What is nice to hear is how many still drive slowly by to think back so fondly on this place that gave so much. I wonder if all of you could raise money to have a plaque placed here and if the current owners would be ok with that. John and Helen would always be known.

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    1. Hi, Birgit!

      Happy birthday, dear friend! I hope your day has been extra special so far. Thanks for taking a tour of the new Dell (not to be confused with New Delhi) with my roving reporter, former Dell owner Toni Deroche.

      Yessum, imagine what it would be like to live in a house so rich with history and have hundreds of former Dell rats slowly driving by and rubbernecking to see what their Alma Mater looks like today. I can't help believing that some of those battered and abused women also return to have a look at the place that offered them food and shelter when they were in desperate need years ago. A plaque to honor The Ettlines is a great idea!

      Thanks again for spending a portion of your birthday here in the Shady, dear friend BB!

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  6. The Dell has truly become a beautiful home, Shady! The owners have done a wonderful job with their remodel, but, the Dell Rats of the 50's, 60's and 70's will always remember it as it was. It was so nice of the owners to allow Toni to meander through and photograph the property in its beauty.

    The attic holds so many stories, I'm sure. How generous and noble that Helen and John provided a safe place for abused women. This couple was so ahead of their time, and we could all benefit from the knowledge of their compassion...the two hearts that catered and cared for many teens and abused women for so many years.

    Shady and Toni, these photos are so nice, and the story of the Dell will continue on for years. I think it is fantastic that some of the Dell Rats and other folks enjoy driving by the New Dell, admiring the restoration, and grateful that the Dell was saved, not to be forgotten.

    This is a great tribute to an historical icon, with many fond memories of special days gone by. Thank you Toni and Shady.

    Take care, dear friend Shady!

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    1. Hi, Suzanne!

      I'm delighted to see you, dear friend! Thanks for putting on your hiking shoes instead of your dancing shoes and following SPMM photojournalist and former Shady Dell owner Toni Deroche on a tour of our old stomping ground.

      The Deroches deserve most of the credit for how the Dell looks today. Starting around ten years ago, they did all the heavy lifting, performing all short of upgrades to the Dell, installing new electrical system and lighting, repairing drywall and painting the walls, putting in that modern kitchen you see in the picture, steam cleaning the exterior, repairing the roof and porches and clearing unsightly trees and vines from around the house. Based on what we see in these new pictures, the folks who have owned the historic estate since it was sold by the Deroche family in 2012 have taken good care of the place.

      Yessum, I keep staring at that first picture on Toni's tour, the shot of the kitchen as viewed from the family room. To take that picture, Toni stood in what was once Helen Ettline's snack bar. In the other room you see the island kitchen extending back toward the dining room. That entire space was once taken up by Helen's jukebox and the row of diner booths that lined the walls of the Dell restaurant. It boggles my mind!

      Yessum, an important and often overlooked part of the Ettline legacy is their community outreach and philanthropy. They helped crazy mixed-up kids. They helped pregnant teenage runaways. They helped women in crisis fleeing abusive relationships. As I have often stated, even then, all those years ago, John and Helen were part of a vanishing breed.

      Yessum, the Dell could easily have fallen victim to the wrecking ball, but Toni Deroche sensed how much the place meant to thousands of Yorkers who had hung out there through the years. She made a commitment to restore the Dell rather than let it deteriorate and be destroyed. We owe Toni a debt of gratitude. If I were still living in York, I know I'd be cruising past the Dell on a regular basis and letting the memories flow, my mind drifting back to the place, the people and the times of my life.

      Thank you again for being here for this special post, dear friend Suzanne. I hope you and Scootie are well and in good spirits. We still have not received the rain you've been promising. Please see what you can do bout that. :) Stay tuned for the debut of a new S-P-M-M radio show - Beth Boland's Adrenaline Rush - coming in my next post next Tuesday. Until then, enjoy the rest of your week and weekend!

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  7. That is so cool. I love that they had a place in the attic for women who needed it. Being able to go back to a place that you loved and see the inside of it is very special. I guess you really can go home again.

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    1. Hi, Mary!

      Welcome, dear friend! I am excited to have you here to learn more about my Shady Dell hangout in this new post featuring pictures recently taken by former owner Toni Deroche.

      Yessum, the Dell's third floor attic, which for years harbored secrets, is filled with history and mystery. The magical "header" picture at the top of the post, which resembles the cover of a YA fiction novel or an oil painting rendered by a talented artist, is an iconic reminder.

      I am proud to let you know that I now own John Ettline's "billyclub," the nightstick to which I referred in my report on the Dell attic's use as a shelter for abused women. The baton was purchased by my cousin Bill Lewis at the sell-off of Dell merchandise circa 2010-2011, and Bill generously shipped it down here to me to add to my collection of Dell memorabilia. My collection also includes the Dell's dance hall entrance sign, tack room name plates and original menus from the Dell's snack bar and restaurant.

      Yessum, you really can go home again, and Toni Deroche proved it. Thanks to her pictorial guided tour, the Dell rats of old are also able to go home again... to our home away from home... the Shady Dell.

      Thanks again for swinging by and for your interest in the Shady Dell story, dear friend Mary!

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  8. Tom,

    WOW, the new Shady Dell looks amazing! How very nice of the young couple to allow Toni a revisit and to photograph the place, too. That's incredibly generous of them. I loved the tidbit about the Ettline's caring for abused women. They had hearts of pure gold if you ask me. What good people they were! Excellent post, great fun!!

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    1. Hi, Cathy!

      Thanks for coming over on your summer hiatus, dear friend! I'm glad you were here to take the tour with Toni. Original Dell rats have reason to celebrate. The young folks who now inhabit our cherished Shady Dell are aware of its rich and colorful history. They are taking good care of our home away from home. The were indeed generous to allow Toni to go floor to floor taking pictures, and to welcome "old timers" (as John called them) who swing by to gaze at their old hangout and even take a look inside and reminisce.

      Yessum, John & Helen had hearts of gold, and yet they and their Dell gained a bad reputation among parents, teachers, clergy and law enforcement throughout the community. Posts like this one help set the record straight.

      Thank you again for making time for a visit and comment, dear friend Cathy. Take care and enjoy your summer schedule slowdown!

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    2. Tom,

      Your delightful post do bring new light on the kind-heart Ettlines but I'd say those who gave them and the Shady Dell a bad rap probably aren't living today which is unfortunate. Parents always fear what they do not understand where their kids are concerned and all it takes is one negative thing to make its way through the grapevine casting ugly shadows on good people.

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    3. Hi, Cathy!

      You make good points here, dear friend. The rumor mill is vicious and can bring down good people. As a rule, the people who feared and attacked the Dell were people who never actually went there. They let their imaginations run wild and let their tongues wag with unkind and unfounded stories. I am proud to be doing my part to set the record straight.

      Thanks again for coming to chat, dear friend Cathy, and enjoy the rest of your week!

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  9. Everything changes, but the memories of good old time remain. That young family did a marvelous job and now they will make new memories. It is nice that they fixed it up to their liking instead of tearing it down.

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    1. Hi, Arleen!

      I'm thrilled to see you, dear friend! Thank you very much for coming by to see what our old hangout, The Shady Dell, located on the south side of York, PA, looks like inside and out in the year 2021, nearly sixty years after Dell rat Tom became a regular face in the crowd.

      Yessum, overall we, the original Dell rats, consider ourselves lucky. As the 2010s approached the previous owners, The Deroches, needed to make a decision. My guest blogger, Toni, sensed how much the Dell meant to so many and she pushed for its restoration and preservation and opposed its demolition. If it hadn't been for Toni, every structure on the Shady Dell property might have been demolished to make way for new construction. As it was, the people who bought the Dell from the Deroche family in 2012 elected to tear down the historic dance hall, barn and garage to the dismay of those of us who made the Dell our second home as teenagers. However the renovated 110 year old Dell house remains standing and is now called home by a young family that clearly cares about the place. They have it nicely furnished and were kind to welcome previous owner Toni through the doors to take pictures for this post.

      Thank you again for your kind visit and comment, dear friend Arleen. Take care and please come back and see me again soon!

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  10. OK, so you say that family room was once the Dell restaurant. You also state the dance hall was torn down. So, since the restaurant-turned-family room is still there, but the dance hall isn't, were the two attached originally, or was the dance hall a separate building, and one had to walk outside to get from one to another? I'm asking because I'm just having a hard time visualizing all this.

    I'm also curious about the history of this building. Was it a restaurant and dance hall from the very beginning, or was it built as a private residence that was then turned into a restaurant and dance hall, and now has been reverted back to a private residence?

    And finally--you might have written about this and I've just forgotten--does the dance hall predate the rock and roll era? Did teens (or for that matter, adults) once dance to ragtime bands and swing music?

    A lot of questions I'm asking, but it's your fault for making me curious about this stuff. See what you've started? (Another question!)

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  11. Hi, me again. I've gone back and read some of your earlier comments. You do mention a Brown family and a Spangler family living there. But I'm wondering if in addition to them living there, did those families also operate it as a dance hall, as the Ettlines did.

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    1. Hi, Kirk!

      Thanks for coming by and for letting your curiosity run wild. I am pleased to inspire you with the Shady Dell saga, good buddy!

      Here's a rough timeline of the Shady Dell's history. You met Margaret Schneider in my April 18 and May 26 posts marking the anniversaries of her birth and death. Margaret - The Oldest Living Dell Rat - was born Margaret Elizabeth Brown in 1912. That same year, her daddy, George Brown, began construction on a grand house on a hill which became known as The Shady Dell. Upon its completion in 1913, George moved his family (including one year old Margaret) into the Dell as its first residents, "the First Family of the Dell," as I like to call them. George Brown had an automobile sales and repair shop on the premises, sold hunting dogs by mail order, sold homemade remedies and potions and ran other types of businesses from the estate. The Browns left the Dell in the late 1920s and the place became home to the Spangler family. Phil Spangler, who was my source of info for this chapter of the Dell's history, told me that his great-grandfather, who had witnessed the start of the Battle of Gettysburg in the Civil War, raised squab pigeons at the Dell which were sold to York area restaurants, cooked, and served as a delicacy. The Spanglers left the Dell, I believe, in the early to mid 1930s. From that point until John and Helen Ettline purchased the estate in the post-WWII year 1945, the timeline, ownership data and use of the estate becomes murky. Keep in mind that the Dell had not been used as an entertainment venue during its first 20 years. However that might have changed in the 1930s. I was told that the Dell once served as an upscale after hours night spot, a bottle club with a piano bar and fine dining. When The Ettlines became owners in the mid 40s, they operated a bakery and ice cream parlor. The ice cream parlor evolved into a restaurant with a full menu of entrees. When the rock & roll era dawned more young people started to visit the Dell than older ones. John began to cater to teenagers by installing a jukebox and a concrete dance floor next to the house. By word of mouth, the Dell gained a reputation as an "in" place for teenagers. As attendance mushroomed, John responded (circa 1959) by having a separate dance hall built adjacent to the old barn/garage complex that was still standing since 1912-13 when the George Brown family first occupied the residence. Getting to the dance hall from the Dell house required only a 30 second walk down a sidewalk pathway. By this time, the Dell had two jukeboxes, one in the house next to Helen's snack bar and the other in the dance hall (often referred to as "The Barn"). Music from the dance hall jukebox was piped thru remote speakers hanging above that outdoor concrete dance floor where many rats chose to dance in warmer weather.

      So to sum it up, the Dell started as a private residence with business ventures operating on the premises. Under the Ettlines it became a bakery, ice cream parlor, restaurant and dance venue. When John died and the estate was sold, it reverted back to a private residence and has remained so to this day.

      Thanks again for your great questions and for taking an interest in Shady Dell history, good buddy Kirk!

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  12. Hey there Shady, sorry for the late visit but I've been busy doing my typing work with not much time for visiting. The Dell looks gorgeous. What an interesting story about the haven for battered women. Hearing that people still drive by to see their old stomping grounds reminds me of the people who travel to SF to see the Painted Ladies. I have driven by the house I grew up in many times since I still live in the same town but haven't had the courage to ask the new occupants if I can go in. I can see from the outside they have made some changes inside and I think it might make me too sad to see what they did. Have a wonderful rest of your week my friend.

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    1. Hi, Janet!

      It's wonderful to see you, dear friend. Thanks for coming by! I'm happy to know you are keeping busy with typing work and making some extra $$$.

      I'm glad you liked Toni's 2021 tour of the Shady Dell. Clearly the new owners respect the place and appreciate its value as an historic York County landmark. They are taking good care of our old Alma Mater and we thank them for it.

      Yessum, can you imagine the stories some of those women could tell about living in the Dell attic? My mind comes up with question after question: How many women hid up there at the same time? How many were pregnant or had young children with them? How many men heard through the grapevine that their women were hiding at the Dell and went up there to confront John? Was he ever required to use his billyclub on intruders? I ponder those questions every time I examine the billyclub which is now in my possession thanks to my cousin Bill buying it at a sale of Dell items ten or more years ago and shipping it down here to me.

      Yessum, I remember your post showing SF's famous Painted Ladies row houses. Thanks for the anecdote. I learned that the York house I grew up in changed dramatically under the new owners and I was told I wouldn't even recognize the interior. That makes me sad, but at least I have my memories of it along with some great pictures taken by my dad over the years.

      Thanks again for checking out this special post, dear friend Janet, and enjoy the rest of your week and weekend!

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  13. Hi Shady! I'm ready to get back to blogging and stopped here first. What a treat to see the beautiful Dell in it's restored new form. I loved all the pics that Toni shared. I looked at those lovely wood floors wondering if they are original. If they are then a young cool cat Tom left his footsteps there. It's wonderful that so much love has been put into keeping this home and it's history alive. How nice they welcome Dell Rats in to feel the magic one more time. Obviously many former teens have memories of their youth spent there with John and Helen, friends, music, and fun. You all were lucky to have been there. The house may have gotten new updates, paint and the purpose of once again having a family make their own memories within it's walls but it's original soul will always be there while you and the other Dell Rats keep that music alive in your hearts! Have a good weekend ahead and thank you for your concern and good thoughts on my recovery. It's been a harder journey than I thought but light is at the end of the tunnel and I'm getting back into more normal stuff! Take Care!

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    1. Hi, YaYa!

      I am very happy and relieved to see you back on the blog circuit, dear friend, and honored that you chose to make Shady's Place your first stop. All this time I've been thinking about you and praying for your recovery. I am thankful that things are finally turning around for you after so many hardships during the past year or more.

      Yessum, this was a Magical Mystery Tour, a chance for original Dell rats to sneak through the door with Toni and take a look at the Shady Dell in its current form. Clearly the young family who now occupies the dwelling understand its importance to thousands of people in the York area who frequented the Dell in their youth, especially the ones who attended during its glory years in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Unless I am mistaken, The Deroches installed new wood flooring in the restaurant. When I hung out at the Dell in the 60s, I didn't pay much attention to the flooring, but I vaguely recall a mat runner leading from the front door through the foyer and into the restaurant area, up the aisle between the rows of diner seats and out to Helen's kitchen and snack bar. The dance hall was another story. I well remember the professional grade oak floor John installed for our dancing pleasure.

      I like how you expressed yourself here, YaYa. Over the years, the Dell has undergone renovation and change, but its original soul remains intact, and the music and memories live on in the hearts of countless teenagers who are now growing old but continue to think young.

      Once again I am very happy to know that you are feeling well enough to return to blogging. You have been missed, my cherished friend. Thank you again for taking the tour with Toni and enjoy the rest of your week and weekend!

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  14. Hi Shady!

    You did a wonderful job with the blog post ( as always) with the pictures I sent! What fun it was to go back to the Dell again after all these years. The proud family living there now did a beautiful job with their own renovations! The Dell is thriving once again as a family home. It looks so nice now with their furniture , homemade dining table, some new light fixtures and completely re- renovated one bathroom and the 1/2 bath on the main floor ( that we put in to replace the “Men’s” & “Women’s” bathrooms). They love it there and will continue to grow their family. I hope to stop again to see their son playing in that HUGE side yard along with a couple more siblings!

    It was soooo nice collaborating with you once again! I miss it-it’s been a while!

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    1. Hi, Toni!

      Yessum, it surely was fun collaborating with you again as we did so many times in years past, going all the way back to the start of my old blog Shady Dell Music & Memories in 2008. Most of my current blog friends started following Shady's Place in the years since your last series of posts in which you showed us the Dell renovations, the open house, the sale, and the demolition of the dance hall, barn and garage. This new post of yours gave us a golden opportunity to give current readers a look at the Dell and discuss interesting facts about its history.

      The Dell was in good hands when you owned it. You saved the Dell, Toni, and original "old timer" Dell rats will be forever grateful. Today the Dell is once again in good hands with a kind and caring couple making it their home and helping to preserve it.

      Thanks again for serving as Shady's Place roving reporter and filing this report. As you can see by the many comments above, your post drew a considerable amount of interest and follow-up questions. Take good care of yourself, Toni, and keep us informed of any and all breaking news on the Dell front!

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